[ Sigh... very well, audio it is. Usually that's Irving's preference too, mind, but there's something to be said about the convenience of text sometimes, of not needing to worry about what anyone might hear (or not) in his voice.
(Though conversely, indeed that is sometimes also the precise pitfall to text that frustrates Irving to no end as well: tone.)
In this case, his voice is quieter and more hesitant than his angry texting might have implied, if almost entirely because he simply still isn't actually very comfortable with having these kind of conversations. Jopson had been so hurt before that Irving wasn't sharing his confidence with him, so Irving's been making an effort almost entirely for his benefit, but so far it's felt like quite a one-sided one. ]
Well, it's not nearly as bad as all that.
[ A beat, before he shifts the subject down a less personal track: ]
By this point he's already rejected dark purple, navy, and gold, so I'm sure now I'll have to settle for some appalling grey shade. Never mind the symbols apparently don't have enough of a narrative for him, either. Does that make any sense to you?
If it really must be dark grey then so be it, but I've already made it quite clear to him that I won't agree to black. I'm sure he gets the point by now.
[ As Irving continues to speak his tone finally begins to steady out a bit, normalize, grow a bit more heated in that quiet, passionate way of his. He does sigh, but not at Jopson; still flag-related, concerning the "criticisms" Jack had laid upon Irving's latest attempts at some designs. ]
He says a dove and a skull don't go together... that it's all complete gibberish if I don't also give him a story with it. Well of course it's gibberish, the skull is only there as a compromise in the first place! [ He huffs irritably. ] I'm not even sure what he'd prefer instead.
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Date: 2022-07-19 12:33 pm (UTC)(Though conversely, indeed that is sometimes also the precise pitfall to text that frustrates Irving to no end as well: tone.)
In this case, his voice is quieter and more hesitant than his angry texting might have implied, if almost entirely because he simply still isn't actually very comfortable with having these kind of conversations. Jopson had been so hurt before that Irving wasn't sharing his confidence with him, so Irving's been making an effort almost entirely for his benefit, but so far it's felt like quite a one-sided one. ]
Well, it's not nearly as bad as all that.
[ A beat, before he shifts the subject down a less personal track: ]
By this point he's already rejected dark purple, navy, and gold, so I'm sure now I'll have to settle for some appalling grey shade. Never mind the symbols apparently don't have enough of a narrative for him, either. Does that make any sense to you?
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Date: 2022-07-19 09:10 pm (UTC)[ He doesn't sigh, but only just. ]
It makes sense. What's he suggesting as an alternative?
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Date: 2022-07-19 09:43 pm (UTC)[ As Irving continues to speak his tone finally begins to steady out a bit, normalize, grow a bit more heated in that quiet, passionate way of his. He does sigh, but not at Jopson; still flag-related, concerning the "criticisms" Jack had laid upon Irving's latest attempts at some designs. ]
He says a dove and a skull don't go together... that it's all complete gibberish if I don't also give him a story with it. Well of course it's gibberish, the skull is only there as a compromise in the first place! [ He huffs irritably. ] I'm not even sure what he'd prefer instead.